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Old 17-12-2007, 07:58 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Mikeuk View Post
If moraliity is simply a lifestyle choice and greed, lust etc are ethically equal to the example of Mother Teresa, then there is certainly no moral argument for Political Correctness.

And why knock Hitler, Caligula, Stalin etc? Were their 'lifestyle choices' somehow less valid than everybody else's?

True, they made lifestyle choices for millions of others, but isn't that the way of the modern world?
It certainly was the way of the ancient world where the king suddenly decided to take a quantum leap, whether into a new faith or a new ideology, and all the peasants had to jump or be slaughtered. Since the year dot, it seems, the rank and file have adopted the vision, whether mad or otherwise, of the superior class headed by whatever dangerous individual could claim their unswerving loyalty at whatever cost.

It's interesting that you mention this to be still prevalent today. How do those who would be king now get this right? The media? The threat of economic disempowerment? The threat of incarceration? Of shunning? The deeply humiliating deposition to that of a "bad person" or a guilty person, etc? Are the new age stocks and chains simply invisible ones?

Libertarianism is basically authoritative. This is because true freedom comes with the price of responsibility and the courage to implement the rule of law so that liberty and all this privilege entails, may be enjoyed and not abused. Because one can abuse freedom and the modern left is a perfect example of how this can be achieved and to what extent it can become fascistic and suffocating, lines must be drawn in the sand as to what is and what is not acceptable to the group living and working within the context of this kind of liberty.

I think many people get libertarianism and libertinism mixed up. "I do what I like" is not the same thing as "I like what I do." As Lewis Carroll pointed out at the Mad Hatter's tea party. And no matter what ideological gymnastics any free thinker is willing to practise there will always be the problem of pleasing all of the people all of the time while retaining order that upholds the very structure of the ideology concerned. It simply isn't possible. Hence the need for certain groups to draw lines and have opinions and to craft their communities by means of these democratic tools.

Extremist lefties consider this to be fascist, yet there is nothing more confining and soul destroying today that the nature of post Marxian social engineering. The lie that this goes under any kind of libertarian flag is unacceptable in terms of the new left's acknowledgment and implementation of draconian legislation to force diverse communities to conform and be "good". In many ways the new left is the direct beneficiary of the ancient policy of obey or die.
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