Originally Posted by Eurosceptic Atlanticist

For reasons of national identity, of pride, for patriotism, comradeship. Etc, etc...

Originally Posted by Ayn Rand

"Socialism is the doctrine that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that his life and his work do not belong to him, but belong to society, that the only justification of his existence is his service to society, and that society may dispose of him in any way it pleases for the sake of whatever it deems to be its own tribal, collective good."