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Originally Posted by noachian
Quite agreeable Smidgey, it is minipulation that HMQ is practially forced to sign every single piece of legislation. She is too worried being dissliked by her people for interfereing with politics if she were to intrevene.
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So she is selfish? If I were prime minister I would be happy to garner some dislike as long as what I was doing was something in favour of liberty.
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However the Monarchy largley is not about vetoing and legislation passing, it is about unity, looking to somebody above peatty political arguments, somebody to reprisent us in the world as our Head of State who's family has done the same for our country for a thousand years, somebody who hasn't got corrupt political schemes or isn't elected by some reigeme.
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So it is about collectivism then? If this is your argument, it makes me want it even less...
I would also not take pride in the record of her family - tyrants and murderers, many who should have been stripped of power and placed in prison cells. The fact that anyone could have respect for someone like Henry VIII or George III is morally disgusting.
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No matter, Smidgey, of your view of the Monarchy, she still reprisents you as a Briton and thats what the Monarchy will always do  as Antisithenes said "A King's lot: to do good and be damned." meaning its a Monarch's duty to do the right thing but be damned and hated for it.
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If its their duty to do the right thing then why on earth have they signed all that legislation? It seems if that was the duty, she is acting against it!
I don't care if she 'represents' me (which is clearly does not, since she doesn't hold my views). Gordon Brown supposedly 'represents' me too. The idea that we can have representatives who are chosen by birth or who are chosen by tyranny of the majority (democracy) is naive and absurd.
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A famous Scrubs episode said "Thats what a good leader is, giving the people somebody to hate by doing the right thing." Her Majesty might seem undemocratic, it might seem old fashioned, elitist and 'unfair' but the fact is, is that this is GReat Britain, this is who we are, this makes us what and who we are.
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Don't dare tarnish me with your sick collectivist ideology. I am what I make myself, not because some person wearing a funny hat lives five hundred miles away from me. I am not part of some collective, some uniting body. I am an individual who is free to make their own decisions and create their own lot in life. The fact that government uses violence and force to steal from us or to force certain ideologies upon us does not change this - the moral law is still the greatest guiding compass and no matter how many church leaders, governments or groups continue to deny the moral law does not make it false. People who do so reveal their own immorality in the process.
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I hope one day you will realise that we need the Monarchy, whether for the Emergancy Powers or just to wave a Union Flag at uniting the Country in peace for a Jubilee or Commonwealth Day
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I need monarchy like I need a brain tumor...
I have no need for this sizeable government and I have no need for your collectivism.