The time to get seriously worried is when there is NO grassroots or similar ginger group within UKIP. That would mean that the last remaining visionaries for change in UKIP will have at last given up that UKIP will ever want to become becoming relevant to the public and electable. Those that pour scorn on those brave enough to "out" as grass democrats seem to have no answer or plan b to the reality that in vote terms the impact of Nigel concentrating almiost solely on media exposure rather than substance has been a long string of humiliating council by election results and a barren party website (with referendum issue where ? ) that whilst concentrates on website posting news bites lacks a core section on "what qwe believe in " to connect with the public.
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