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Originally Posted by Aardvark
...but why make the Devon mistake in the first place? Most people on this forum know where they live and many are from either Portsmouth or Devon.
It's an odd question to ask why people on this forum are so averse to Labour. There is the same antipathy on the Tory and LibDem fora. This forum is populated by an odd mix of libertarians, disillusioned Tories, old Liberals, Monster Raving Loonies, English Democrats and even BNP trolls.
Most of us, I presume, have made a conscious decision not to support Labour and are unlikely to be converted, but you are welcome to try. When Labour apologises for launching an unprovoked war on a sovereign nation, scraps ID cards and promises to withdraw from the EU I will take a look at the other policies.
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It was a private joke, nothing more.
I assume that you mean the Iraq debacle, or instead the Afghan war?
I believe that whether or not the war was justified by the WMD excuse (which I am ashamed of for my party; the evidence supporting the idea was far too weak to go to war on) it was nonetheless justified by the removal of Saddam from power. The man was a brutal tyrant; at least under even temporary Western occupation there is a possibility that it may one day stabilise and better itself. How many future lives might we have saved by removing him from power? Likely more than we have destroyed.
I disagree with ID cards,but mainly on the basis of economics.
As for leaving the EU, would it not be better to offer a referendum? That way democracy rules; to simply state that we were leaving would merely transform what many think of as a dictatorship into one of a different kind.