[quote=ModernUKIP;434393]You'd rather die for someone like Tony Blair?[quote]
1) I wouldn't join the military.
2) If there was a draft I would sooner go to prison as an objector.
3) I made clear in my last posting that if one fights for anything, it should be liberty and freedom. Tony Blair is neither of these.
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I'm a Monarchist through and through. God Save The Queen.
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I am Republican through and through. Liberty, Equality, Fraternity. (We all have our own wee sayings.
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Oh, and for the record, Codified Constitutions don't stop dictators either. However, the Crown may, as at least the Crown is a figure opposition to a dictator can rally around, and carries some authority.
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I never claimed they did...
The ideals of liberty, republicanism and the separation of powers can do that just as well.
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Very nice quote there, I have heard it man many times expecially by my pompus American friend to expalin "THAT EVERYBODY IS AN AMERICAN WHO BELIEVES IN FREEDOM" which I see as a very dull approach to ones pride a service to country.
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Indeed, America has strayed far away from what the founding fathers taught. Jefferson would be turning in his grave. I suppose the same is true of Britain. Mill, Locke, Hume and Smith would be aghast at the current state of Britain and how our freedoms have been trampled on ever since the rise of the Labour party over 80 years ago.
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I am glad your grandfather fought for mine and your freedom as did my gradfather. Its true you dont have to be a Monarchist to fight for your country in liberty we find the willingness to fight. However I was talking more about the Veterans we have today; do you really think they would have connected better with a corrupt, adultering, power-lusful money-grabbing politician or rather the 81 year old woman who has pusher and forcer her life and soul into the job which killed her father and which keeps Britain unique in the world of many many failed or failing Republics.....BRITAIN HAS NEVER FAILED FROM WITHIN ITSELF AND NEVER WILL (unless people like you take the populace), I will be willing to defend freedom and fight for a woman who has inspired me so much to put my duty first and my slef second; no matter how hard the task in hand. Did Bill Clinton among other world presidents do that NO, what do they do? they give up.
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I'm sorry if this is insulting, but this paragraph comes across as if you are espousing communitarian or collectivist values. I have no disrespect for the queen - only her office. By placing your argument against my republicanism in a person you are really hitting a straw man. Furthermore, if the queen had the power of Bill Clinton we could see ourselves with a case of George III or George IV, not the case of our current day. Furthermore, monarchies have failed in the past as well, so to single out only republics in this case is rather disingenuous.
The queen is but a woman and God does not exist.
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Smidgy do you really want a head of state who represents on side of the political spectrum, a person who will reprisent our nation and country to be bias on one topic and agree with certsain thing and not with other and be open about it. The Queen is Politically neutral by Constitution therefore she reprisents everyone and not just Tories (although she is seen to be Conservative being a Monarch and all) or just Socialists or just Communists, she reprisents everybody be cayse she was not voted in by a massive wake of nutters. Smidgey, the majority of the British populace are socialist!
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Well, this entire paragraph has expanded upon ModernUKIP's straw man of my position, nevertheless I will answer it.
Again, this comes across as communitarian and collectivist. I am an individual, I care very little what the executive or the legislature are doing, so long as they are brought down to size and the scope of government is drastically reduced. Your paragraphs are coming across as some sort of collectivist dichotomy: either monarchy or state. I choose neither. You are assuming that because I am a republican I must automatically love the state? You are completely mistaken. I am a republican and I am a libertarian. The state is force and violence, and to assume that I would somehow show allegiance to the state over a monarch is folly.
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Smidgey, the majority of the British populace are socialist! And if we had a democratically elected head of state (which would be a waste of time since we might as well have someone who was born to do it) then the socialists would vote for the most socialist candidate
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And if the queen supports the NHS or the public school system, then so is she. There is a good quote by Hayek which displays this topic perfectly:
"There is all the difference in the world between treating people equally and making them equal."
As to your bracketed phrase, do you believe in divine right?
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therefore the person who will reprisent our nation at every world cup, Christmas Broadcast, ribbon cutting and opening of Parliament will be only reprisenting the socialist popultion. Do you finally see what I mean now?
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Yes I do, but that doesn't mean I agree with it.