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Originally Posted by ModernUKIP
Are you saying that graffiti and littering don't affect others, and thus shouldn't be tackled? Again, fail to see who enforcement of these laws affects your civil liberties.
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It doesn't necessarily. You mentioned New York and I argued that the methods used by Guiliani were very poor methods. To which you asked me, rhetorically, if I thought these offences were good.
The important question is not whether these things violate the rights of others - because they clearly do. But whether we can come down hard on them without violating the rights of those we are trying to protect.