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Originally Posted by Martin Harvey
Andrew Constantine wrote
'Our political and media elites have failed us: we active citizens need to work together to clear the lot of them away. '
That is correct, but you wont do it with the English Democrats, all the EDs do is to take some votes from UKIP which makes the LabCon lot happy. If the EDs really wanted to achieve proper Independent Democratic government of the UK by our own Parliament at Westminster, then they would join with the many loyal UKIP activists, instead of trying to entice the weaker UKIP members into their little fold.
Martin Harvey.
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Martin
I respect the sincerity behind your above post and it deserves a proper reply
Something we disgaree on is that I insist that England should have its own Parliament, now that the other home nations have their Parliaments or National Assemblies. It is not just about the signs/symbols of nationhood, although that also is vital for me. But while England does not have her own Parliament, Engalnd will be disadvantaged by the three main parties trying to bribe the electorate (at our expense) in the other home nations.
In reply to your main point, I note that it is a rare and fortunate event when idealism and party political advantage go together. But even when I was a member of UKIP (and used to post on this forum as such) I argued strongly that the cause of England (not the UK) quitting the EU was not only the right thing for reasons of principle, but was also the most assured way of our quitting the EU.
A former well respected UKIP member said to me recently "You know what the most important thing the English Democrats have going for them is...it is the logo of the Cross of St George (i.e. the English Flag)".
So I believe that if some of the home nations of the UK are to leave the EU, it will be combining nationalism and the desire for democracy. Nationalism can a very powerful force for most people: it can motivate ordinary people to do extraordinary things. The anti-EU forces in the UK need to harness nationalism; UKIP gets damn all from its members and the voters in NI, Scotland and Wales. Its power base is in England, so identify yourselves with England.
Fault my logic if you can.
Andrew Constantine