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Originally Posted by mkpdavies
However, this wasn't the most interesting thing he was telling me. He reckons that a decent sized group of Tory MP's have had enough. They know it's going to be very difficult to acheive anything within the party now, so they are looking for other options.
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I'm afraid this is nothing but wishful thinking. I remember meeting Sir Teddy Taylor in 1992, and his words on the Maastricht Treaty - he said if it went through then it wouldn't matter which party you voted for afterwards. Since he purported to be so opposed to it, how could he continue to sit for the party which pushed it through. While I'm sure his opposition was genuine, he continued take the cash as a Tory MP instead of becomng independent and asserting his principles. No doubt he would say that he felt there was more opportunity of getting change by working within the party - well, he and others have done so all these years, and there has been no change, no sign of any change and they have signally failed even to hold the ground they had in 1992 as the Tory party slips irrevocably and inexorably leftwards and EU-wards. Today's dissenters wil doubtless spin the same yarn of "change from within". These Tories are actually more harm than good, as they preserve the illusion for many rank-and-file members that the party really is a conservative party, instead of the statist, socialist-leaning, metropolitan entity which it really is.