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Old 19-01-2007, 12:27 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Would any of you have voted for Michael Foot or Neil Kinnock to get Britain out of the EU/EEC as it was then?
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Yes.
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If Michael Foot had won in 1983 we would probably would be living under a Right Wing dictatorship by now as the millitary would have tolerated him for long.
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Hard to think of anything worse or more difficult to shake off than the regime the EU superstate people have built by stealth. With a straightforward coup you'd know exactly who the enemy is.
The EU has its people from Brussels to the town hall, to the media, to 'big business', 'the arts', etc. Some of these people are influential, greedy big-shots, but many are just unthinking petty bureaucrats and pen-pushers who can sip a little from the gravy train. Collectively the effect is devastating.
A very good question if genuinely asked, This-England. However I suspect you wanted to respond to the question more than ask it. In 1983 the threat to the Nation was rightly seen as being from the Soviet bloc and also the unions which were severely infilitrated by trotskyites as well as pro-Soviets (thus the genuine interest of the members such as keeping them in work were broadly irrelevant to many union leaders). The EC had very limited powers at that time. The Single European Act did not exist. The Factortame case which was the first time a UK Act of Parliament was ruled unlawful had not occurred.

I therefore disagree with eublues about saying yes to that loaded question. Loaded & partially false, because Neil Kinnock in 1992 did not state it was Labour policy to withdraw from the EC.

Regarding what would've happened if Foot had won in 1983 I think the book and/or dvd 'A Very British Coup' by former Blair regime minister Chris Mullin is worth consulting & treating very seriously indeed. I do not believe Foot would have ever shut down parliament, abolished democracy or established gulags. If our Armed Forces had been obliged to save the Nation in the 1980s we in 2007 would have well moved on.

I don't have such confidence when it comes to the Commission & that is where I return to agreeing with eublues.
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