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Originally Posted by mkpdavies
Sorry Cassie, but if you are an English Democrat, then you one that wants something totaly different to what the other English Democrats have said they want, will happen and that is the UK to no longer exist and for England to remain on it's own.
If you still want the Union (or at least until the UK has all the power back from Brussels), then I have no truck with you.
My only question for you, is why you support a party that is fighting to have another puppet government builiding? Unless you believe that demanding an English parliament will see the EDP sweep to power within the next century, which would be barking IMHO.
The rest of you fellow comrades delight at saying the Union is over and that Unionist parties have lost already. How do you square that circle if you don't believe it is the end?
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I have told you about what actually is the official EDP policy, as distinct from what others may claim it to be or what they may wish. (You might also take into account the temptation to provoke 'unionist' UKIP.) The more EDP members who support the current policy, the less likely it will change.
It is clear to me that, currently, some 20% more voters support an English Parliament than want independence. I believe that if the EDP becomes seen as being an independence party (akin to the SNP), it will not maximise its support.
I am also sceptical that the Scots themselves will actually vote for independence when the crunch comes. Alex Salmond and the SNP have enjoyed much of the publicity over recent months, but we are beginning to see the fight back. New Labour will be joined in promoting the Union by the Tories, the net result will be some impairment of the support the SNP currently appears to enjoy. The question is how much? It need not be very much to scupper Salmond's schemes.
Whilst I thoroughly disapprove of how Scots in government have treated England unfairly, and although I am conscious of a widespread anti-Englishness amongst Scots, I do not hold that nation in contempt.
My vision is of an English Parliament and for Britain to leave the EU. The conditions for creating the former (ie a wholesale change in the individuals sitting in the Commons), will make the latter possible. I believe that our political situation is sufficiently fluid to make such a 'revolution' possible. The traditional party ties have been greatly weakened and there is huge disengagement with the current agendas of the Big Three.
In such a situation, I also envisage a re-negotiation of the terms of the Union, and that some kind of constitutional convention involving representatives of the English, Scots and Welsh (and possibly Northern Irish) will be necessary by common consent.
The UKIP has much to commend it - its anti-EU stance is entirely desirable to me - but, without wishing to appear to bash it for the sake of it, I felt unable to join it because it has lost much credibility (vital for a party to retain), and because it has not really supported my idea of an English Parliament and Executive.