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Originally Posted by Bluemerle
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Whats the chance on these guys defecting
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Zilch I should think. They won't leave the Conservative Party as such, but I think they may have the whip withdrawn as some did in the Major Government. They will then be free to pursue their own agenda, namely to get us out.
The Conservative Party should have split in 1992, we may not be in such a mess today if they had. It is the Clarkes and Heseltines who have done so much damage to our country, and shame on Major and others for listening to them. :twisted:
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Absolutely spot on Bluemerle. Major was a closet europhile who was only chosen as Conservative leader because he wasn't Heseltine. Major then won the 1992 General Election only because he wasn't Kinnock. The 1992 Election was just a gigantic UK-wide referendum on Kinnock. The public could only vote No to Kinnock by picking the bogus eurosceptic Major.
The way the Tory 'euro-rebels' (the half a dozen anti-Maastricht MP's plus Rupert Allason MP) were treated was absolutely disgraceful. With the way the wimp Major, Heseltine (the EU-fanatic Deputy Prime Minister) and Clarke (extreme europhile Chancellor) were behaving in the period 1992-1997 anyone would have thought the europhiles were in the majority in the Conservative Party! The reality was that the views of the overwhelmingly eurosceptic and anti-EU Conservative rank-and-file have been skirted around, suppressed, ignored, distorted and people who hold such views in the Conservative Party have even been harrassed and bullied (as Theresa Gorman, the former Conservative MP would testify).
The problems over europe/EU are going to continue in the Conservative Party until it EXPELS the europhile imposters and makes clear to all new applicants for membership (of the Conservative Party) that the party is a pro-sovereignty party which seeks the return of all sovereign powers lost to the EU in Brussels and the repeal of the EU Communities Act 1972.
This, in itself, would not bring back into the Tory (Conservative) fold all the anti-EU patriots who have been forced out or bullied out of the Conservative Party (by the europhile imposters) but it would be a start.
I wonder when 'Dave' (Cameron) will realise that he's not going to get that overall majority in the Commons until he relents over his foolish verbal attack (a month ago today) on UKIP and accepts that he won't win the hyper-marginals he needs to oust Labour on his own without the vital votes of anti-EU people in those constituencies.