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Old 09-02-2006, 07:26 PM   #28 (permalink)
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This is my point though - whatever people consider to be their "culture" changes very rapidly in just a matter of years.
Culture is about tradition, if I say to you British food what would be the picture in your mind roast beef or curries, if I asked 20 different nationalities what do they think is a British dish what would they say.

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Curry, pizza, burgers and Chinese probably feature far higher in people's lives than most of the things that you list. Why are they therefore not part of British "culture" now?
If I drive a Ferrari does it make it a British car

Crickey I can tell you haven’t got kids, most people I know bring children up on either meat and veg or frozen chicken nuggets and chips.
Takeaways are a luxury.

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Those foods that you list are from a period of a couple of hundred years perhaps? Where is the British "culture" from before that, which has supposedly been here for 1500 years?
Meat and veg if they could afford it, scrags if they couldn’t something we’ve been eating since forever

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It sounds like your version of British culture is the same as John Major's 1930s England. Is that still relevant to modern Britain?
Its not what we eat its the style and tradition, we don’t live in mud huts because things progress and that includes food, put it this way are curries like the curries in India, no we adopt them to suit British tastes.

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Don't get me wrong, I love all of that stuff, but it is history, not culture.
It is all part of the British make up.

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This is why I was saying that it is bunk - it simply isn't relevant to modern life in this country. there are so many very different groups in Britain, including a million muslims, that I don't think that it is meaningful to suggest that there is a single culture that defines them.
I’m not, but certain nationalities have tradition and customs. I might eat a haggis but what nationality do you associate them too

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Now look down your list and tell me how many of those things are threatened by non-indigenous British.
Never said they were:?:

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True, but I would think that most of it could just as equally apply in the USA, Ireland, France etc. In other words, most of what you list is simply Western.
Rubbish it’s the association that matters
Frogs legs---France
Paella--- Spain
Germany---Frankfurters

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Anyway, my main point is that even the "indigenous" British society has many different so called cultures, not just one. If you can find the common elements of them all, then perhaps we can call it a "British culture".
They are customs and traditions that are associated with being British, these will evolve with time but it will take decades for the new ones to become part of the British way of life.

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Who cares if we lose Spotted Dick? When was the last time you ate that?
You’ll have to ask biscuit about that :wink:

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Nor do I think that we should hang on to what you regard as our culture just because it has previously been our culture. Let's choose what we like, ditch what we don't and bring in influences from the outside - now that

Nobody’s hanging on to anything, things evolve just like the Birmingham Balti, you wont find a Balti in India why because it is a British dish 8)
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