Hi welcome to the forum. Its heartening to welcome people who dont abdicate their resposabilities to democracy and freedom. The fact is soverignty and democracy are not on trial we ae on weather or not we defend them. We may have a hell of a fight on our hands but our councenses are clear and we will not go down in history as one of the idiots who volentarily voted to relinquish their freedom. A claim no lib/dem voter can possably make