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Originally Posted by Midas
If a criminal having been locked away for 10 years, and not having been encouraged by the suggested programs to be a model citizen then the short answer is yes. But say if he went away and was involved within the program he would have his points reduced and this may not necessitate one silly mistake becoming a long jail sentence.
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Overall I don't see how your system is any different than a judge taking INTO phpbb_consideration previous offences including their age. A tally of points can stop leniency on the one hand, but takes away discretion on the other. Every crime is different, every person an individual. If you put flexibility INTO phpbb_the allocation of points then you have nothing different than today. If you don't, you take considered decision out of the process.
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There are many jobs that the `law abiding` population won`t do, and that is why we have an immigration crisis with many people working illegally.
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I don't agree with you as to the root cause of this problem, or the implied suggestion that prison labour will therefore solve the illegal immigration problem.
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Anyway, it`s more to do with the criminal having his pride restored within society,
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By giving them the jobs no one else will do, in the presence of a prison guard, I assume?
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Because an idea is basically simple, it doesn`t mean to say it is impossible. Or does it?
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Not at all, nor does it mean it is easy. Human Rights may be a lame excuse to you, but dismissing this aspect so quickly doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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She could see no way out of her worthless existence. But why should society care? Because it should and because it will liberate many victims from it.
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I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here. How you got the idea doesn't make the idea workable or not workable. You seem to be suggesting that society at present doesn't care, and your idea is the caring option.
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But that`s up to her is it not?
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You've lost me here. Are you advocating the free will to choose to be a prostitute? Do you believe making it legal or illegal has no bearing on this?
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Anyway, you live in Germany where prostitution is legalised. How many of your friend`s daughters are hookers? I can`t see the logic in that response as it does read like a `knee jerk` reaction.
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The fact that I don't know anybody who has a daughter in prostitution is irrelevant. Knee jerk reaction? Nope, try this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...30/wgerm30.xml
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Consider also that there will no longer be girl`s - mostly foreigners being forced by pimps INTO phpbb_a life of prostitution.
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Are you serious? You believe that doesn't happen here? You are starting to show an element of naiivity.
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You offer no alternative, but instead support an ethos that I feel encourages more criminals rather than reducing them.
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You didn't say that feedback was only welcome with an acompanying alternative. I actually did say that criminals should serve longer sentences. Explain how I have supported an ethos encouraging criminals. Here, you sound like someone who doesn't like criticism. Why did you ask for feedback?
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Why shouldn`t they be allowed to work and learn a decent trade and at they same time reduce future penalty sentences.
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Because you may be offering something to prisoners that is not available to non-prisoners, which you have to be careful of.
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All prisoners are not hard core felons - they can be changed.
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And this certainly is nothing new. I can't see the huge society-changing ideas that you seem to think you've discovered.
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Many are victims of environment and their own loss of self-worth.
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Hmmmm.
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If they don`t they (as you argue for longer sentences), will be locked away for longer.
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So does your scheme, overall, bring about shorter sentences or longer ones?
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Purely immediate, knee jerk reaction thoughts.
Yes, I can see. But we should all think more deeply, there can be change.
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Or you should think again about your scheme. Don't ask for feedback if you're going to get mardy when people don't rush up to pat you on your back. I gave you straight, plain answers as to my thoughts, precisely as you asked. I am not at all impressed with your attitude to my reply.
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Sitting back and dismissing something new from a PC terminal isn`t offering us much hope for the future.
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Is your bottom lip sticking out? How was I supposed to give you feedback without being at a PC terminal? Or do you mean I wasn't allowed to disagree?