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Old 10-10-2005, 01:34 PM   #22 (permalink)
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spaman, rail depots in the countryside would be disasterous. The route to and from would have to have new wide roads to allow for the lorry trafic. Around the depot itself you would need storage warehouses. People who worked there would have to commute through the countryside or you would have to allow housing nearby.
As a similar example, go to the beautiful Peak District national park and go to the Hope Valley cement works. See the blot on the landscape it creates and experience the disruption great cement lorries have on the surrounding villages.
There may be some suitable sites, but to make this INTO phpbb_some kind of policy would be awful.

Generally speaking, most intervention aimed at getting lorries off the roads tends to conflict with improving the transport network as a whole. I agree with improving railfreight options through investment, but there's little else you can do after that. The rest heads towards state control of the economy to an overbearing degree.
Encouraging locally produced wares is a nice idea, but you'll have to explain how you think you can achieve it.
Just for clarity, I did say:

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I am not suggesting farm land at all - there must be plenty of out of town brown sites that could be used........
....and yes, we are talking about a fairly major investment to improve the infrastructure of the country, not necessarily government funded, but triggered by a need for improvement, and so government led.

SGK - You also said:
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The route to and from would have to have new wide roads to allow for the lorry trafic
- don't disagree with that 100%........ but consider the state of our roads - London is effectively the hub and all roads lead to it........ We are badly in need of a road structure and rail network that caters for the shape of the country and avoids London as the main bottleneck - the majority of motorways run North to South...... try going East to west and it can be a nightmare

All I am saying is that we need some joined up thinking when it comes to transport....... not over committing to an overnight plan to change the face of transport....... but a plan that says we will look at what is really required, and do something about it..........as opposed to labour who spout a lot and just make it worse - we have to introduce a bit of credibility, by providing working solutions that people can see will have some chance of working - but the bottom line is we need constructive ideas that people can buy into.


SGK - You also, also said:
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Encouraging locally produced wares is a nice idea, but you'll have to explain how you think you can achieve it
First action - cutting the red tape and regulations that destroy so many small businesses........ tax incentives....... improvements to the tax rates system levied on small businesses.
Encouragement of viable local communities is a must....... and can be done in several ways..... ensure a PO, bank, and pub are easy to setup and cheap to run....
Make it easy to sell things from your own doorstep/stall without a myriad of daft rules and licences....
Getting the idea across to all concerned that they can be responsible for themselves and what they do without a nanny state watching their every move.....

Just a few thoughts...



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