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ldatakiller · 03-11-2004, 01:54 PM

In answer to Tom Wilde

One possible scenario is this.

Bush will continue in a similar vein to what he has done since 9/11, in that he will drive Iraq to Democracy by killing as many insurgents as he feels he needs to. This is not another N.Vietnam because they have lost over 1,000 soldiers so far & the American people still voted for him again. So this impies that they are happy (at least 50% of them are), to continue driving unilaterally to prosecute the so called "war On Terror".

Bush will NOT move INTO phpbb_Iran, Syria or anywhere else because he does not have the ground forces to prosecute a new battle front with ground forces.

On paper it looks as if he has lots of forces to spare, but don't forget that he has to keep some in Iraq longer than expected because he does not have the correct type spare & ready to go. He also has a very large amount of NON-full time military ground forces so he cannot continue to keep them away from home too long nor pay the large sums of money for them.
He has already asked Congress for billions & then gone back & asked for some more billions, so he does not have the capacity to keep doing this otherwise the Americian public will be hit by extra taxes to pay for it & he is a Conservative & hence a tax reducer, not increaser.

I suggest that he will keep the pressure up on Iran via the UN Council & push very hard for the French, Germans & Russians to keep on side & do what is necessary if the time comes. He will not go it alone again.

The only way Iran would be next for war would be if he (Bush), suddenly found he had his military freed up in Iraq if he was able to hand over full security to the Iraqi's. This will NOT happen for at least a year & by then Iran will be either resolved or find they have 130,000 American forces on their doorstep with both the will & the ability to go to war with Iran. Iran
will not allow that to happen because they have seen that the Americans will not bluff.

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The thing we need to think about more than this "Regional" issue (Iraq), is Global Warming or whatever else you want to call it. My view is this:

American will not step away from oil usage in the near term but they are & will continue to spend very large sums on Fuel Cell technology & other cleaner options. WE in Europe must drive ahead with the G8 & others, to reduce our dependency on oil & other fossil fuels & hten this will give hte America public an option. At present they have no option because they have NEVER in their history, had a major issue on their own land (except 9/11 & the war of Independance. This means that they do not understand hardship & cannot think of giving up what they have until there are fully viable options that have been proven by use. So lets give them the options & get them off fossil fuels etc. It's nice to be in a position where we in the UK can help to push America the way we need them to go.
Imagine what we could do if we had a UKIP Government.

Well that's my view.

03-11-2004, 01:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
ldatakiller Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 25	In answer to Tom Wilde One possible scenario is this. Bush will continue in a similar vein to what he has done since 9/11, in that he will drive Iraq to Democracy by killing as many insurgents as he feels he needs to. This is not another N.Vietnam because they have lost over 1,000 soldiers so far & the American people still voted for him again. So this impies that they are happy (at least 50% of them are), to continue driving unilaterally to prosecute the so called "war On Terror". Bush will NOT move INTO phpbb_Iran, Syria or anywhere else because he does not have the ground forces to prosecute a new battle front with ground forces. On paper it looks as if he has lots of forces to spare, but don't forget that he has to keep some in Iraq longer than expected because he does not have the correct type spare & ready to go. He also has a very large amount of NON-full time military ground forces so he cannot continue to keep them away from home too long nor pay the large sums of money for them. He has already asked Congress for billions & then gone back & asked for some more billions, so he does not have the capacity to keep doing this otherwise the Americian public will be hit by extra taxes to pay for it & he is a Conservative & hence a tax reducer, not increaser. I suggest that he will keep the pressure up on Iran via the UN Council & push very hard for the French, Germans & Russians to keep on side & do what is necessary if the time comes. He will not go it alone again. The only way Iran would be next for war would be if he (Bush), suddenly found he had his military freed up in Iraq if he was able to hand over full security to the Iraqi's. This will NOT happen for at least a year & by then Iran will be either resolved or find they have 130,000 American forces on their doorstep with both the will & the ability to go to war with Iran. Iran will not allow that to happen because they have seen that the Americans will not bluff. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The thing we need to think about more than this "Regional" issue (Iraq), is Global Warming or whatever else you want to call it. My view is this: American will not step away from oil usage in the near term but they are & will continue to spend very large sums on Fuel Cell technology & other cleaner options. WE in Europe must drive ahead with the G8 & others, to reduce our dependency on oil & other fossil fuels & hten this will give hte America public an option. At present they have no option because they have NEVER in their history, had a major issue on their own land (except 9/11 & the war of Independance. This means that they do not understand hardship & cannot think of giving up what they have until there are fully viable options that have been proven by use. So lets give them the options & get them off fossil fuels etc. It's nice to be in a position where we in the UK can help to push America the way we need them to go. Imagine what we could do if we had a UKIP Government. Well that's my view.